@miu 14 flags means they passed 4 times. One pass give an extra flag point.
And well I can just compare this with my beloved game "Natural Selection 2". There is a pre game phase in which people can use any weapon but not harm each other. it is clear that the game has not started. If you are not sure you press TAB and see that the time does not change. Also there teams are shuffled so often based on your ELO rating until teams are fair.
@Ao1-Pointblank once again we are talking only about giving people time to disconnect or change to spectator. You can exclude forced team changes here besides one exception I will explain later.
I am trying to get some statistics for this but it is difficult.
Some numbers:
At 33736 map changes 58076 people disconnect within the first minute (first minute is not correct here, it is an estimated value). That is only an average of 1.72 players!
At the same time 57821 people join. So they make up for those leaving right? :D
One value is missing, that is 9874 people being put into spectator because they simply do not move when the new map starts.
Now I tell you all those averages are useless because there are so many cases where balance goes wrong.
Mon Jun 12 14:06:28 2017 | new insta ctf on dust2
Mon Jun 12 14:06:28 2017 | gc: 72348 KiB -> 57620 KiB
Mon Jun 12 14:06:30 2017 | disconnect: [RUSS]julia (24)
Mon Jun 12 14:06:30 2017 | leave: [RUSS]julia (24)
Mon Jun 12 14:06:46 2017 | status: 22 remote clients, 221.8 send, 19.2 rec (K/sec)
Mon Jun 12 14:06:57 2017 | svastika54: lol
Mon Jun 12 14:07:15 2017 | ImaginePeace: fck
Mon Jun 12 14:07:38 2017 | autospec 3(WrongGuy)
Mon Jun 12 14:07:38 2017 | autospec 27(Christina_T)
(julia leaves, multiple people just don't move and get put in spectator)
If this happens on the same team, even if you have 20 players you end up easily with a 10 vs 5 within the first minute...
The worst part is really the people who do not disconnect but just stop moving. So the game appears to have the same amount of players but they just left the keyboard.
Sun Jun 11 22:38:33 2017 | new insta ctf on twinforts
Sun Jun 11 22:38:40 2017 | leave: arCABAL (4)
Sun Jun 11 22:39:23 2017 | leave: SmokeIt (2)
Sun Jun 11 22:39:49 2017 | leave: Ao1|Pøint|SM| (0)
Sun Jun 11 22:40:36 2017 | leave: VoiceOfTruth (3)
Sun Jun 11 22:40:42 2017 | leave: noreallife (10)
Sun Jun 11 22:40:45 2017 | leave: Bukkake (5)
(and nobody joining)
I don't have to comment on this one.
Then there is a third problem regarding autospec. Let's say 3 players are put into spectator and some others join, they are put into the team with less players. But when those who were put into spectator decide to come back they are not reassigned. The rule of not being able to join a team which already has more players does not apply. Not directly related but it should also get fixed in my opinion.
Kind Regards,
Obstriegel
