Crowdsourcing DDOS Protection Funding?



  • @doge said in Crowdsourcing DDOS Protection Funding?:

    @Fritz_Fokker Hopefully this wouldn't be a longterm solution. Just a few months before the bullies get bored and move on.

    right, that's why it's been going on since four years by now. welcome to reality, kids. welcome.

    "It was Back Door Sluts # 9." (The Return of the Fellowship of the ring to the Two Towers)

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  • @DipShitStar But in those our years, no one has done anything as drastic as this. No one has ever tried to stop him. It's a gamble to try setting up protection, as he could break it and fuel his ego even more. That's the last thing we need; some derp with a bottomless wallet prancing around boasting about how he broke pastaland despite expensive protection.
    Also, is it true that he himself pays for the ddos "service"?

    Ne cede malis

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  • Unfortunately. @DipShitStar makes a good point. ddos attacks are quite commonplace on the internet.



  • @Ao1-Pointblank said in Crowdsourcing DDOS Protection Funding?:

    @DipShitStar But in those our years, no one has done anything as drastic as this. No one has ever tried to stop him. ... (+lots of blablah)

    you seem to know it all, but you are so wrong.
    please don't just assume shit and take it for granted.

    "It was Back Door Sluts # 9." (The Return of the Fellowship of the ring to the Two Towers)

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    It would be quite endearing if people pooled funds to get ddos protection. There's not much logically wrong with it, it's a lot like when countries increase their defense expenditure due to repeated attacks.

    But at the same time it's kinda uncool. Makes us feel defeated. Gustave was happily running the server on $xx/month now he has to pay $xx+80/month. That's a big victory for the ddos guys, it's like mission accomplished for them. "haha you banned us, now you pay extra $$$$ every month ahhahha".

    So I don't know what the solution is, but this is not it for me.



  • We know for a fact that the culprits behind supposed pastaland hit also mounted other SSH brute force attacks from same ip range on other peoples servers.

    Pretty stupid to also mount a ddos attack isn't it ?

    Sit back and enjoy the popcorn.



  • @cs4 do you REALLY know this for a FACT? or are you just using a phrase you read so often in the internet, that it makes you think you'll sound smart, using it?

    "It was Back Door Sluts # 9." (The Return of the Fellowship of the ring to the Two Towers)

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  • :lifter_tone1: honeypots ftw :D



  • @miu @DipShitStar I have no idea when ownz or whoever started the ddos attacks. I've been playing this game on and off for a few years and I don't recall it being down for stretches of time this long. I don't deny that ddos attacks have ever happened before, just haven't seen something like this where some individual was so determined to keep it down permanently.

    In my experience, most ddos attacks are one-off incidents. They happen, the instigators chuckle to themselves, then move on. This on the other hand is repeated targeting by a single party. I'm not sure the standard method of just waiting for each individual attack to lessen then rebooting the server is the appropriate decision. Though I suppose the point and this discussion as a whole is moot if gustavo isn't willing to purchase the protections or if the server has been sold.

    Regardless, @miu I'm not sure what your problem is, just some suggestions mate. :)

    @h8 I agree it's not optimal. It seems to me to be a last ditch effort. Personally, I don't care what the ddossers think. To me it's a lot simpler than that. People are willing to pay for a protection plan. The protection plan supposedly keeps the server running. Those people who paid for the plan are happy. That's all that really matters here. I don't care if the ddossers consider it a win, to me if people are willing to pay for the plan then why not, let's make sure the server can be enjoyed by everyone. My 2c.

    Woof

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    @doge as I said, Pastaland is an open source project. Technically versed players are welcome to fork it , and as you may have noticed another Pastaland server located in USA is in the master list (although it still needs some adjusting). Setting up more servers will help mitigate this problem, we only need people willing to work on it.



  • @doge Back in the days when PSL / Ogros servers were more prominent they were down for several days because of some other (?) shit kid ddosing them. Not minutes or hours... days. Same for Masterserver and I am sure other prominent servers back than too. So even if this shit kid will stop: there will always be some other low life that will take on what other shit kids started.
    Btw.: I really would like to see some ddos-protected server just to annoy the kid ddosing the servers now but I think that @GustavoLapasta is right. Just go on... it's just a game... if one server gets ddosed... move on to the next one aka. "just ignore the troll".



  • @Rosine The only populated servers are the ones that Fraggin and Friendless own. They have admin their and decide who can play and who is banned. So sometimes it is a bit hard to move on.

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  • @Ao1-Pointblank
    Hmmm... you can always join some random server and wait for other ppl to join if Pastaland is down. Demophobia, Nooblounge, PSL1 are examples for servers where not every random idiot could claim master and that get crowded fast as soon as some players are on there (maybe because of good reputation in the past).
    To tell the truth: I would rather doing something else than joining a server were some random kid has master.


  • Masters

    Going nowhere here.... Jeez you guys can't see past your noses can you?

    Noli nothis permittere te terere

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  • so in case anyone is interested, this is what i know about this whole mess so far, all quotes [sic]

    • fragginfucker (ff) is likely behind some of the attacks, he would say pasta is going down and it goes down in minutes. he's got a permanent ban there. quoting ff:

      ive never said i ddos
      im just friends with the ones who ddos

    • according to many rumors, someone going by the nickname “Ownz” is/was behind the attack, but i don't think i've ever met him

    • at some point someone named “Sentinal” claimed he ddosed pasta, saying the following while talking about Star:

      it's merely a demonstration of what will happen to him if he keeps his shit ways up he is one of the most ignorant fuck wads i have ever meet and a very abusive member of the sauer community

      as well as

      somedays i will do it for fun :)

    • someone named FearLess claims that he is Sentinal and that this is his twitter account. he said, and i don't have a quote here, that Ownz ddosed in the past but not anymore; that it was he, FearLess, who hosted the second pastaland server for nopnotme, and that he took it offline because Gustavo kicked(?) him from his own server. ff, however, said that

      fearless is pissed off lol
      nopnotme fucked him lol
      this was nopnotme servers not fearless

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    probably there's not a shed of truth in all this but whatever

    yes i have nothing better to do than write this stuff



  • @li'lfluf yeah that's his twitter. At least it's using the same image as his discord account. Also, ff might be fearless. The C| clan might also be connected. Sorry, I have no proof of this.

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  • Masters

    to add something to li'flufs summary:

    Several months ago I was chating with Ownz and indeed he was dossing pastaland at the very moment. He admitted and we talked about that....



  • @li'lfluf ....

    "It was Back Door Sluts # 9." (The Return of the Fellowship of the ring to the Two Towers)

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  • ddos-ing a server is a felony and please there is no need speculate who is behind it.

    Discord has logs, FBI has tip-offs, OVH is in-the-know no need to make these kiddies react by increasing their nuisance behavior.


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